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741 Stroker data / work
in progress
(revised
10.29.00, please help fill in the blanks or get in touch if you have corrections!)
I offer this work in progress....gathering this data is making me think about lots of issues for improving Indians - for example, reviewing S&S literature, they state that for bottom end shafts, these are the proven desirable features to strengthen built-up cranks: 6 degree taper, large diameter at point of connection to flywheel, and keys....do Injuns have keys?? dunno, but as I evaluate how to upgrade my 741 while rebuilding / stroking, I'm looking to make it bullet proof..... guyiii@home.com
741 INDIAN STROKER DATA / OPTIONS
Engine | Bore | Stroke | CI | Rod
length |
Rod
ratio |
Flywheel
OD |
RPM @
3500 ft/min piston speed |
CR |
30.50/741 | 2.500 | 3.0625 | 30.07 | 7.283 | 2.38:1 | 7.80 | 6857 | 5.00:1? |
741 37 | 2.75/70mm | 3.0625 | 36.38 | 7.238 | 2.38:1 | 7.80 | 6857 | 6.05:1+ |
741 overbored | 2.875 (bad!) | 3.0625 | 39.76 | 7.238 | 2.38:1 | 7.80 | 6857 | 6.61:1+ |
741 stroker* | 2.75 | 3.3125 | 39.35 | 7.402 | 2.23:1 | 7.80 | 6339 | 6.54:1 |
741 stroker | 2.75 | 3.500 | 41.57 | 7.402 | 2.11:1 | 7.99? | 6000 | 6.91:1+ |
741 stroker | 2.75 | 3.8125 | 45.28 | 7.4375 | 1.95:1 | 7.80 | 5508 | 7.53:1+ |
741 BIG stroker* | 2.72 | 4.4375 | 51.32 | 7.402 | 1.67:1 | - | 4732 | 8.53:1 |
45 Scout | 2.875 | 3.500 | 45.44 | 7.402 | 2.11:1 | 7.99 | 6000 | 5.00:1? |
45 Scout stroker | 2.875 | 3.8125 | 49.50 | 7.4375 | 1.95:1 | 7.785 | 5508 | 5.45:1+ |
45 Scout stroker | 2.875 | 4.4375 | 57.6 | 7.402 | 1.66:1 | - | 4732 | 6.34:1 |
45 HD | 2.750 | 3.8125 | 45.3 | 7.4375 | 1.95:1 | 7.785 | 5508 | 5.00:1? |
900 Sportster | 3.00 | 3.8125 | 53.9 | 7.4375 | 1.95:1 | 7.785 | 5508 | - |
61” Knuckle | 3.3125 | 3.500 | 60.3 | 7.4688 | 2.13:1 | 8.312 | 5056 | - |
1000 Sportster | 3.1875 | 3.8125 | 60.8 | 7.4375 | 1.95:1 | 7.785 | 5508 | - |
74 Chief | 3.250 | 4.4375 | 73.625 | 7.402(?) | 1.67:1* | - | 4732 | 5.00:1? |
74 HD OHV | 3.3125 | 4.28125 | 73.8 | 7.440 | 1.74:1 | 8.500 | 4905 | - |
80 Chief | 3.250 | 4.8125 | 79.85 | 7.402(?) | 1.54:1* | - | 4364 | 5.00:1? |
80 HD flathead | 3.421875 | 4.2815 | 78.7 | 7.906 | 1.85:1 | 8.312 | 4905 | Varied I think |
74 HD OHV Shovel | 3.4375 | 3.9688 | 73.7 | 7.4375 | 1.87:1 | 8.500 | 5291 | 8.00:1 |
(* Inserted
by Moen: 741 with 69mm pistons, stroker
plates, Chief flywheels and Sport Scout rods. Stock crankpin & drive
shaft, special pinion shaft & housing. Kiwi p/n 39348s & 20B101s).
Engine | Drive shaft
OD |
Crankpin
OD |
Pinion
OD |
Taper
Angle |
Wrist pin
(inches) |
Crank
width |
30.50/741 | 0.875 | 0.875 | 0.812 | 6.0 deg | 0.750 | - |
45 Scout | 0.875 | 1.000 | 0.812 | 6.0 deg | 0.750 | - |
45 HD | 0.875 | 1.000 | 0.875 | - | 0.7915 | - |
900 Sportster '55-'71 | 1.00 | 1.250 | 1.00 | 6.0 deg + key | 0.7915 | - |
74 Chief | 0.875 | 1.000 | 0.812 | 6.0 deg | 0.750 | - |
74 Knuckle | 1.00 | 1.249 | 1.00 | - | 0.7915 | 3.9575?? |
74 HD '55-'71 | 1.25 | 1.249 | 1.25 | 6.0 deg + key | 0.7915 | 3.9375 |
74 HD '72-'81 | 1.25 | 1.249 | 1.25 | 8.0 deg | 0.7915 | 3.9375 |
80 Chief | 0.875 | 1.000 | 0.812 | 6.0 deg | 0.750 | - |
ENGINE | PRIMARY DRIVE | SECONDARY DRIVE |
30.50” Indian | 3 row 3/8”pitch chain | 5/8”pitch x 3/8 wide chain |
45” Indian | 3 row 3/8”pitch chain | 5/8”pitch x 3/8 wide chain |
74” Indian | 4 row 3/8”pitch chain | 5/8”pitch x 3/8 wide chain |
45” HD | 2 row 3/8”pitch chain | 5/8”pitch x 3/8 wide chain |
74" HD | 2 row 1/2" pitch | 5/8”pitch x 3/8 wide chain |